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Space Digest                Wed, 12 May 93       Volume 16 : Issue 556

Today's Topics:
                        Life on Earth (2 msgs)
                        Life on Mars. (2 msgs)
              Math?? (Was US govt & Technolgy Investment
                        McElwaine FAQ (3 msgs)
                    Soyuz and Shuttle Comparisons
                          SSTO Alert Update
                         Vandalizing the Sky
           Viewing Jupiter's Galilean Moons - EJASA Article
             Yoo hoo, White Sands? (was Re: DC-X Status?)

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Date: 11 May 93 12:24:52 +0100
From: Adam McCormack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Life on Earth
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tom) writes:
>>>>The sky was never intended to be a billboard (if it
>>>>was intended at all!) and hopefully it never shall be.
>
>>>  How do you know ??? Do you have a direct line to God ???
>>>Perhaps the sum purpose of life on Earth is to evolve a species
>>>who can paint pictures in the sky ...
>
>>No, the sum purpose of life on Earth is to ensure that there continues
>>to be life on Earth.
>
> Sorry.  The sum purpose of life on Earth is to evolve to the point where

> life can leave Earth and live elsewhere as well.  And we're it.

Who says ???

Are you the definitive sourse of information on what we shall and shall not do
with our planets resources.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying hold on
development, but what gives Tommy Mac the right to say what we shall and shall
not do.

Adam
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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 15:17:09 GMT
From: James Davis Nicoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Life on Earth
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom) writes:
>
>Sorry.  The sum purpose of life on Earth is to evolve to the point where
>life can leave Earth and live elsewhere as well.  And we're it.

    Evolution isn't  a directed process and doesn't proceed towards
a specific goal.

                            James  Nicoll

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 15:30:10 GMT
From: Eric H Seale <[e-mail]>
Subject: Life on Mars.
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.bio

[e-mail] (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>New experiments by an international consortium of scientists are planned
>for the 1994 Russian "lander".
> .....
>P.S. The term "lander" might be more accurately called "bouncer".
>To save costs, both the Russian and 1997 American probes are not
>going to have landing rockets, but drop the probes in airbags from
>a parachute a couple hundred meters up.  (Can't have the parachute
>fall ontop of the lander.)

No, they really are landers.  Landers are generally categorized as
either "hard" or "soft" landers (here, "hard" and "soft" are somewhat
subjective definitions, as you might imagine).  The Vikings, and
Surveyors (Moon) were soft landers -- used retro-rockets to set them
down relatively-gently on the surface.  Other landers (some early Soviet
lunar landers come to mind) are hard landers -- rockets or (for Mars)
parachutes slow them down at some altitude above the surface.  Then they
drop to the surface in a fairly ungraceful way.

I can't speak for the Russian probes, but the last I heard, the 1997 US
probe is planned to have air-bags on it (seriously!) to cushion the
impact.  Hopefully, it won't be a "bouncer" (should just hit and go
"thud").

Eric Seale
[e-mail]
#include <disclaimer.std>

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Date: 11 May 1993 18:04 UT
From: Ron Baalke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Life on Mars.
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.bio

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Eric H Seale) writes...
>I can't speak for the Russian probes, but the last I heard, the 1997 US
>probe is planned to have air-bags on it (seriously!) to cushion the
>impact.  Hopefully, it won't be a "bouncer" (should just hit and go
>"thud").
>

The MESUR spacecraft's landing system consists of an aeroshell, parachute and
air bags.  The aeroshell will absorb the heat from atmospheric entry and
slow the lander from 14,000 to 560 mph.  The parachute will then pop out
and further slow down the descent rate to 78 mph.  At 1 second prior to
impact, air bags will inflate to cushion the landing.  The air bags can
absorb energies up to 35 meters/second.
     ___    _____     ___
    /_ /|  /____/ \  /_ /|     Ron Baalke         | [e-mail]
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Date: 11 May 1993 15:29:09 GMT
From: Gregory McColm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Math?? (Was US govt & Technolgy Investment
Newsgroups: sci.space,talk.politics.space,sci.research,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.libertarian,misc.education

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ellis of lemuria) writes:
>greg mccolm suggested that math is a good example of the inertia
>(silver age) of current science.....
>
>is math really a science? what new has math "told" us recently?
>please dont flame me... ive taken no math since 11th grade...
>completed BC calc early and go the hell out... is there really
>NEW stuff going on?? (im not flaming, but honestly durious...)
>
>
>--
>----keep gliding, smiling, and riding that train!
>------Ellis of Lemuria  *   [e-mail]
>-------- P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
>** "Sophisticated technology makes the superstitious


There has been a lot of "new" math.  The calculus you've seen goes
into the 19th century (the uses of limits by Cauchy and Weierstrass's
epsilon-delta stuff).  During the 19th century, people also started
working on "abstract algebra", ie, performing arithmetic-type operations
on non-numbers, eg, functions (remember that you can add, subtract,
compose functions, and these operations resemble arithmetic operations
in many ways);  they also started trying put Humpty-Dumpty together
again after the appearance of non-Euclidean geometries (recall your
plane geometry:  if you did it on a sphere, it wouldn't work, eg,
the sum of the angles of a triangle would be greater than 180 degrees).

During the 20th century, there has been a lot of work done with
algebras called groups (these are very useful in quantum mechanics)
and vector/tensor fields (ditto for non-quantum and relativistic
mechanics).  An abstract sort of geometry, called topology, has
become very fashionable (there is a sort of fashion group, called
Nicholas Bourbaki, which has been selling topology as the most "with
it" mathematics).  Meanwhile, a very ancient branch of philosophy,
logic (my own field), has produced some surprising results (eg, if
you assume enough axioms to do arithmetic, then you cannot use those
axioms to prove that those axioms are consistent:  in essence, you
can never be sure of the legitimacy of your mathematics [this is the
Godel-Rosser theorem]), as well as becoming one of the driving
forces of computer science.  Speaking of which, combinatorics, which
started as counting problems and questions like "is it possible to
construct a map so that you need 5 colors to color the provinces (so
that no two providences are of the same color)?" has become another
major field and driving force of computer science.  (The answer is
no:  this is the Four Color Theorem).

This is only a small sample.  For more, see Edna Kramer's History
of Modern Mathematics, Ivar Pederson's recent books on modern
mathematics, the Scientific American's collection of essays on
Modern Mathematics (edited by Morris Kline), books by Morris Kline
and his archenemy, Eric Bell.  The puff book Time-Life Mathematics
is not particularly good.

As for mathematics being a science, well, it is more of a meta-science
(in a Kantian view), and some claim that it is an art.  The David
Report called it The Science of Order, but that's probably pomposity.

-----Greg McColm

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 23:48:08 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: McElwaine FAQ
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,rec.arts.drwho

McElwaine Frequently Asked Questions.

*** PLEASE ***
  Please Read and then place in your Kill File.
  Please do not post this to newsgroups without asking me first.  Multiple
    posts of this will be as bad as McElwaine's postings.
  Please feel free to mail this to your friends and associates.
**************


Hi - welcome to the McElwaine FAQ,
     Version 1.5  by  Master Blaster ([e-mail]).


March/April/May 1993

SUMMARY
=======

Information on who and what McElwaine is, McElwaine postings,
frequented newsgroups, use of CAPITALISATION, cited references,
what you should and shouldn't do in response, ftp sites.
         ******     *********


<0.0> who is Robert E. McElwaine?
<1.0> how do I know it's a McElwaine post?
<1.1> what is his method of distributing information?
<1.2> when did the postings start?
<1.3> what newsgroups have been targeted?
<1.4> what topics have been covered?
<1.5> what should I do after reading a McElwaine posting?
<1.6> what references do the postings use?
<1.7> is McElwaine an official representitive of his university?
<1.8> how do I get in touch with McElwaine?
<1.9> What is wrong with the postings?
<2.0> If he is such a problem, why doesn't his university do something?
<2.1> FTP sites.


* * *

<0.0> who is Robert E. McElwaine?

Robert E. McElwaine from the University of Wisconsin Eau Claire is an "Internet
Legend".  He is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin Eau Clair and
spends a lot of his time posting articles to the network.  He is somewhere
between 40 and 45 years of age and has apparently done tutoring at the
university.

He is not a server program or a group of people as some have suggested.

His use of the Net. is only one channel for his information.  He apparently
posts it up around his campus and pushes it in many other ways.

He apparently believes and feels very strongly about everything he posts.

He claims to be a 2nd Initiate of Eckankar - an "advanced" spiritual path.


<1.0> how do I know it's a McElwaine post?

McElwaine postings have a distinct flavour.  To identify one you don't even
need to look at the header.  The following article attributes will help
identify a McElwaine posting:

i)   A header mentioning how this article relates to the newsgroup OR how
     the author has been "persecuted" in past years for posting it.

ii)  CAPITALISED WORDS spread amongst the text for emphasis.

iii) The following signature:


          UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.


                                   Robert E. McElwaine

iv)  The use of $ to replace the letter S, as in BAR-CODE-$CANNER$ or Jew$.


<1.1> what is his method of distributing information?

McElwaine posts to many newsgroups.  Mostly he posts to groups that have some
sort of connection with the contents of the posting.  Occasionally he posts
an article to a group with a name which appears in the contents of his article;
for example, an article on SDI (Star Wars defence) was posted to
rec.arts.sf.starwars.

His postings are all individual - almost never cross-posted.  In this respect
alone he is taking up a lot of network bandwidth.

Usually he posts articles with a "header" targeted at the particular group
the article is in.  The header points out IMPORTANT information contained
in the article of interest to readers of that newsgroup.


<1.2> when did the postings start?

McElwaine started posting at or before August 1991.  Since then his
postings have become more frequent.  He now posts at least once a week to
some groups.


<1.3> what newsgroups have been targeted?

Numerous groups have been the target of McElwaine postings:

sci.space             alt.atheism              rec.arts.sf.starwars
sci.astro             alt.religion.computers   rec.arts.sf.tv
sci.energy            alt.consciousness        rec.arts.movies
sci.space.shuttle     alt.magick               rec.arts.startrek.*
sci.physics           alt.pagan                rec.gardens
sci.physics.fusion    alt.folklore.urban       rec.sports.olympics
sci.math              alt.bizarre              rec.sports.misc
sci.optics            alt.dreams               rec.running
sci.research          alt.out-of-body          rec.arts.drwho
sci.environment       alt.politics.perot       rec.music.christian
sci.skeptic           alt.sex                  rec.arts.tv.uk
sci.chem                                       rec.food.cooking

misc.misc           soc.culture.british     talk.rumors           comp.ai
misc.kids           soc.women               talk.politics.soviet
misc.fitness        soc.history             talk.religion.misc
                    soc.culture.soviet
                    soc.culture.greek
                    soc.culture.australian
                    soc.culture.french
                    soc.culture.taiwan
                    soc.culture.asian-american
                    soc.culture.usa
                    soc.college


<1.4> what topics have been covered?

McElwaine covers many topics including religion, science, social issues,
political issues, diets, cultural issues and psuedo-science.

Recently (April/May '93) McElwaine has been posting Beter Audio Letters as
well as his own articles.  See <1.6>  He has also posted a very biased
book "review".

Most of the information in the postings is inaccurate and some of it
(eg: dieting methods) is dangerous.  It is suggested you ignore any
advice given in these rantings.

The majority of people in the newsgroups disagree with the information given
in the articles.


<1.5> what should I do after reading a McElwaine posting?

You have a number of options including posting a flame, mailing a flame,
giving critical comment, or doing nothing.

It is suggested that **ignoring** his posting is the best course of action.

McElwaine appears to thrive on comments and flames about his articles because
he then knows that people have read them.

Initially, McElwaine replied to his mail and followups to his postings.  He
appears to have given up now.

Very few people have ever had success with mailing McElwaine.  One person
mailed him and received a lot of his articles in reply.  Abuse or reasoning
now meets with a stoney silence.

The amount of mail he receives is probably very high.  Mail bombing of
McElwaine's account is apparently quite frequent and has had no success.
As mail bombing is objectional and ineffective is it is suggested that you
do not participate in this activity.

There is one case, to my knowledge, of McElwaine no longer posting to a
group.  It was due to the participants in the newsgroup ignoring the
posting.


<1.6> what references do the postings use?

McElwaine uses several references:

    i)   The Peter Beter Audio Letters.
    ii)  The Wisconsin Report.
    iii) Published books and reports.
    iv)  Other sources not cited.


i)   Dr Peter Beter's Audio Letters were made between June 21 1975 and
     November 3 1982.  Overall there were 80 made.  They contain various
     "predictions" and other sensationalist reports.   Most are based on
     "conspiracy" theories from the early 1980's.  They were classed as
     dubious back then and certainly have no place in the 90's.

ii)  The Wisconsin Report is a weekly legislative newspaper containing
     more of the same types of information that the Beter Tapes do.
     Most likely because Dr Beter wrote for the Wisconsin Report.

iii) Published works include:

       "The Secret Life of Plants"  - P Tomkins & C Bird; Harper & Row [1973]
       "The Structure of the Physical Universe" - Dewey Larson.
       "Born to be Magnetic" - Frances Nixon, [1973].

iv)  Other sources are probably used by McElwaine but no references
     are given.


<1.7> is McElwaine an official representitive of his university?

No, he is not.  It would appear that there is even a "standard disclaimer"
that is posted if people ask about McElwaine.  His ideas and comments are
purely his own and not those of his department or university.

The system administrator at McElwaine's machine refuses to reply to mail
concerning McElwaine.  Legal issues are involved.
See <2.0>


<1.8> how do I get in touch with McElwaine?

Send mail to [e-mail].  The chances of a reply are small
because of the amount of "mail" he receives.
It is strongly suggested that you don't bother.


<1.9> What is wrong with the postings?

Although Mr McElwaine has every right to post articles to the network,
regardless of their content, he is doing it in a continually obnoxious
way.

The content is not in question.  It is the method of distribution that is.


<2.0> If he is such a problem, why doesn't his university do something?

Apparently McElwaine has taken legal action against individuals and his
university in the past.  It appears that the University is proceeding
with caution on this issue.  They are aware of the situation but do not
wish to enter into a court battle they may well lose.  McElwaine is
claiming his "constitutional right to free speech".


<2.1> FTP Sites?

The Beter Tapes are held on:

  uglymouse.css.itd.umich.edu

A collection of McElwaine articles is stored on:

  world.std.com: /pub/alt.religion.kibology/mcelwaine
  [192.74.137.5]

Also see the newsgroup alt.fan.robert-mcelwaine

(contrary to what Mr McElwaine claims - this is *not* a fan club)


* * *

The above information was collected by the author of this FAQ from McElwaine
postings, followups and mail I have received on McElwaine.
All opinions expressed are entirely those of the author.  The information
is, as far as I know, correct at the time of printing.

Thanks to all those readers who have responded with information.

Any further information is gladly accepted.

This information may be copied and freely distributed by email.
Please do not post it.

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 17:31:20 GMT
From: Josh Hopkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: McElwaine FAQ
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,rec.arts.drwho

I'm not sure which amazes me more: the fact that someone would go to all this
trouble to write about McElwaine or the fact that someone would post something
which repeatedly says it shouldn't be posted.

It's all moot anyway.  He had is net access privileges revoked last week.
--
Josh Hopkins                                          [e-mail]
            "Find a way or make one."
                 -attributed to Hannibal

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 18:03:25 GMT
From: "Mary F. Shafer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: McElwaine FAQ
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,rec.arts.drwho

While I won't address his behavior in other newsgroups, Robert
McElwaine did stop "posting" to sci.aeronautics after I, the
moderator, send him one brief message about it being inappropriate.
Obviously, he did change his behavior based on feedback.

On the other hand, he lost his Net privileges on 7 May, after
appealing to his school's review board, so the entire discussion
is moot at this time.

Since my posting from cactus is excellent proof that it's not
impossible to find alternate accounts, we may yet hear from
Mr. (Dr.?  I forget) McElwaine again.

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Date: 11 May 93  08:39:10
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Soyuz and Shuttle Comparisons
Newsgroups: sci.space

The most revealing comparison between Shuttle and Soyuz is cost. All
other comparisons are apples and oranges.

--- Maximus 2.01wb

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 17:34:49 GMT
From: "Allen W. Sherzer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SSTO Alert Update
Newsgroups: sci.space,talk.politics.space

A week from tomorrow (May 19), the House Armed Services Subcommittee
on Research and Technology will be marking up their authorization. Part
of the report language for this bill directs SDIO to spend $100M on
design work for a DC-X followon. This vehicle will not be the DC-Y
but will likely be a vehicle which can with modification make orbit
and return to fly again.

This is a key vote. At this time there is only $5M for SSTO work next
year. If this isn't increased, the SSTO effort will be setback if not
killed.

Below is the name, state, phone, and fax number for the Subcommitte
members in the House and Senate. If any of these Representatives are
in your state, please call and ask them to support the SSRT language
in their authorization.

If you don't live in one of the states, please call or fax Rep
Schroeder (D-CO).

    House Armed Services Committee - Research and Technology Subcommittee

Name                       Address            Phone      FAX
                                              (AC 202)   (AC 202)

Patricia Schroeder (D-CO)  2208 RH  20515     225-4431    225-5842
Bob Stump (R-AZ)            211 CH  20515     225-4576    225-6328
Dave McCurdy (D-OK)        2344 RH  20515     225-6165    225-9746
Jane Harman (D-CA)                            225-8220
Roscoe bartlett (R-MD)                        225-2721    225-2193
Don Johnson (D-GA)                            225-4101
Glen Browder (D-AL)        1630 LH  20515     225-3261    225-9020
Earl Hutto (D-FL)          2435 RH  20515     225-4136    225-5785
George Hochbrueckner (D-NY) 124 CH  20515     225-3826    225-0776
Martin Lancaster (D-NC)                       225-3415    225-0666
James H. Bilbray (D-NV)                       225-5965    225-8808
Chet Edwards (D-TX)                           225-6105    225-0350
Duncan L. Hunter (R-CA)     133 CH  20515     225-5672    225-0235
John R. Kasich (R-OH)      1131 LH  20515     225-5355
James V. Hansen (R-UT)     2466 RH  20515     225-0453    225-5857
Frank Tejeda (D-TX)                           225-1640    225-1641
Martin Meehan (D-MA)                          225-3411
Elizabeth Furse (D-OR)                        225-0855    225-9497
Steve Buyer (R-IN)                            225-5037    225-2267
Peter Torkildsen (R-MA)                       225-8020    225-8037
James Talent (R-MO)                           225-2561    225-2563

Ronald V. Dellums (D-CA)   2136 RH  20515     225-2661    225-9817
Robert K. Dornan (R-CA)    2402 CH  20515     225-2965    225-2075
Marilyn Lloyd (D-TN)       2406 RH  20515     225-3271    225-6974
John Tanner (D-TN)                            225-4714    225-1765
Pete Geren (D-TX)                             225-5071    225-2786



     Senate Armed Services Committee

Name
Sam Nunn (D-GA)                 SD-303 20510      224-3521     224-0072
John McCain (R-AZ)              SR-111 20510      224-2235     224-8938
Richard C. Shelby (D-AL)        SH-313 20510      224-5744     224-3416
Joseph I. Lieberman (R-CT)      SH-502 20510      224-4041     224-9750
Bob Graham (D-FL)               SD-241 20510      224-3041     224-6843
Dirk Kempthorne (D-ID)                            224-6142     224-5893
William S. Cohen (R-ME)         SH-322 20510      224-2523     224-2693
Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)        SR-315 20510      224-4543     224-2417
Carl Levin (D-MI)               SR-459 20510      224-6221     224-1388
Dan Coats (R-IN)                SR-504 20510      224-5623     224-1966
Trent Lott (R-MS)               SR-487 20510      224-6253     224-2262
James Exon (D-NE)               SH-330 20510      224-4224     224-5213
Bob Smith (R-NH)                                  224-2841     224-1353
Lauch faircloth (R-NC)          SH-716 20510      224-3154     224-7406
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)            SH-524 20510      224-5521     224-1810
John Glenn (D-OH)               SH-503 20510      224-3353     224-7983
Strom Thurmond (R-SC)           SR-217 20510      224-5972     224-1300
John Warner (R-VA)              SR-225 20510      224-2023     224-6295
Charles S. Robb (D-VA)          SR-493 20510      224-4024     224-8689
Robert C. Byrd (D-WV)           SH-311 20510      224-3954     224-8070


--
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Lady Astor:   "Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee!"   |
| W. Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."             |
+----------------------36 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 13:17:16 GMT
From: Dave Stephenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vandalizing the Sky
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] writes:

>Advertisers buy time on the billboard, whose surface is made up of
>tiny mirrors controlled by the avionics package.  The avionics can
>reconfigure the mirrors to reflect different messages at different
>parts of the globe.  Clever programming allows different languages
>to every country.

>During orbital night, the mirrors turn perpendicular to the surface,
>and small lights are revealed.  The lights spell out messages for all
>to see.


As I published in 1986 independent orbiting mirrors in high orbit
could make long lived, targeted space advertising constelations. One
mirror in a high orbit should sell quite well at Christmas time!
--
Dave Stephenson
Geological Survey of Canada
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada              *Om Mani Padme Hum 1-2-3*
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 18:21:17 GMT
From: Larry Klaes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Viewing Jupiter's Galilean Moons - EJASA Article
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,alt.sci.planetary

    In the July 1990 issue (Volume 1, Number 12) of the Electronic
    Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic (EJASA), there is
    an article by Alan William Paeth on viewing Jupiter's Galilean moons
    with unaided eyes.  It is available from the ASA anonymous FTP site
    at chara.gsu.edu (131.96.5.29) or via E-Mail by request.

        Larry Klaes  [e-mail]
             or - ...!decwrl!verga.enet.dec.com!klaes
                 or - [e-mail]
                     or - [e-mail]

             "All the Universe, or nothing!" - H. G. Wells

        EJASA Editor, Astronomical Society of the Atlantic

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Date: Tue, 11 May 93 14:27:33 GMT
From: David Fuzzy Wells <[e-mail]>
Subject: Yoo hoo, White Sands? (was Re: DC-X Status?)
Newsgroups: sci.space

Actually, the best food is near the northern part of the range in San
Antonio at the Owl Bar and Cafe.....best green chile cheeseburgers you
ever tasted!!

                Fuzzy.

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